Train jumps track

Kevin Anderson Dec 27, 2013

  1. BoxcabE50

    BoxcabE50 HOn30 & N Scales Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Is it moving enough, side to side, and doing so freely when on the track?
     
  2. Kevin Anderson

    Kevin Anderson TrainBoard Member

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    Yes when holding the loco in hand the pilot truck has full movement and quite easily too.


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  3. ScaleCraft

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    And, when held so the tread of the tyre is in line horizontally with the tread of the drivers, and turned to the side, the pilot truck wheels do not hit the cylinders or the lead driver?
    The other possibility (without photos) is the centre pickups are bent to one side and dropping off the centre rail and catching the edge of the rail.
    Dave
     
  4. Kevin Anderson

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    Here are a couple of pics as promised.

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  5. BoxcabE50

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    Hmmm. Nothing stands out as an obvious poblem.
     
  6. LegomanBill

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    In the bottom photo, it looks like the rear axle of the front truck comes close to touching the first driving wheel. Could it be that on tighter corners, the wheels do touch, causing the front axle to derail?

    But yet again, you did say it had a free range of motion. You seem to have one interesting issue here.
     
  7. ScaleCraft

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    That's where I was headed with this. Free angle of motion is here measured statically, not dynamically. No wheels are turning.
    I would remove the lead truck...looks like the screw between rear pilot wheels and lead drivers.
    Then try it.
    The rear roller looks from the photos to be way off to one side.Look at them closely from the end of the loco...are they both parallel with the axles, and somewhat centered?
    Dave
     
  8. BoxcabE50

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    In the top photo, it is well clear of those drivers. I believe this is due to simply hanging loosely in two different positions, and when on tracks, this would not occur.
     
  9. Kevin Anderson

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    I did notice the front truck has two different pivot points. Never seen anything like that before.


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    Update:

    Yesterday I stopped in one of my LHS's and told them what's up. They haut so happen to be Lionel dealer and repair point. They told me that they have one of these running on O36 track in the back and it needed to be tweaked a little so that it would run perfectly. So I have two choices. Let them do the tweaking or just get O48 curves at $5 a piece from them.

    Thanks for all the help.




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  11. BoxcabE50

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    Is this engine still under warranty? If so, get them to do the work. Unless you really want to go with a larger circle?
     
  12. Kevin Anderson

    Kevin Anderson TrainBoard Member

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    Yeah still under warrant, brand new


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  13. BoxcabE50

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    Was there any resolution to this problem? If so, what was it?
     
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    Not yet. Lionel doesn't answer emails apparently so now I get to call and complain loudly.


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  15. BoxcabE50

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    Bummer. Thought I'd heard they were decent at handling these things. :(
     
  16. ScaleCraft

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    Except when they close for inventory after the holidays?
     
  17. BoxcabE50

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    Well, if many businesses actually do that any more? Unless they planned to reset or remodel, or have a traditional annual vacation period?

    There really isn't much reason to be down long today. Everything should already be computerized. That can be a fair amount of cash flow lost, depending. There are professional inventory services which will come in and do the job, then produce a report. They move fast, and have hand carried electronics, which download straight to a provided computer. Hand them a check, they hand you a finished report and leave.
     
  18. ScaleCraft

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    As a matter of fact. Bachmann has and still does. Wouldn't surprise me if more did than you thought.
     
  19. Kevin Anderson

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    Update: took the loco in to a LHS that handles warranty work. Runs great now.


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  20. BoxcabE50

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    Did they say what work was necessary?
     

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