Does anyone know if the Daylights that were painted in the all black war baby paint scheme still retained their skirting? Thanks.
John, though I'm no expert on SP steam, far from it, I'll venture to say that the GS-6 class "Warbabies" delivered in 1943 did not have skirts as delivered. In the late days of steam, SP, like my beloved NY Central, removed the "streamlining" from a lot of engines for better access to parts, maintenance. 4449 had no skirts when delivered to Oaks Park in Portland in 1958.
Thanks Fitz I appreciate any imfo I can get on the war babies. I purchased 2 0f the Concor N units but as I try to put them in shape for double heading a here to be built/purchased mail train there seems to be little interest in anything but the Daylights. I take any imfo i can get. John
John - Fitz is absolutly right. According to "A Century of Souther Pacific Steam Locomotives" by Guy L. Dunscomb, S.P. had 10 GS-6's. The photos I have here indicate no skirts, but they did have the streamlining canopies on top of the boilers. The units were numbered 4460 - 4469 and had the S.P. medalion, (instead of the words "Southern Pacific") on the tender. Hope that info. helped
Thanks Bill-This imfo will really help. I don't to belabor the point but do you have any idea what size medalion was on the tender? Thanks
While some of the GS-6's may have had the round medallion on the tender, there were other types of tender lettering as well. Here is a link to a photo of SP 4462 with "Southern Pacific Lines" spelled out in small letters high on the tender, similar to the original lettering in the upper red stripe on Daylight painted GS-2-5's: SP 4462 Also, I have seen photos of GS-6's with the large "Southern Pacific" lettering centered on the tender. Here is a link to a photo of SP 4460 with this lettering on the tender: SP 4460 As a further answer to your previous questions, many GS-2/3/4/5's were painted in all black in later years. While I believe that some retained their skirting, I have not been able to find any photos of one (all black GS with skirting). Most photos that I have seen of GS's in black have had their skirting removed. Here is a link to a photo of this example: SP 4422 I hope this information will be of further help to you.
You are right Kevin. According to the book that I refered to earlier, the S.P. Medallion was removed after the war. So I guess John has a viable choice of what era he wants to model John .. here's the pic that I told you about:
Thanks Kevin and Bill. I had no idea there were so many variations,ie single headlight, all silver vs stripped silver on pilot,white vs black tires,boiler front details. Looks like this is going to be fun.
John, if you go to Friends of the 4449 site at Friends of the 4449 , there will be a link there to "Daylight Sales." On the March excursion on 4449, they were selling copies of "America's Bicentennial Queen, Engine 4449" subtitled The Lone Survivor, by Richard K. Wright. It was originally sold during the 1976 Freedom Train runs, and now can be had for only double what it was then ($10 vs. $5). It is a 52 page soft cover but has some great info on the GS series 4-8-4's. It has builder's photos of GS-2,3,4, and 5 classes. If you are modeling SP and GS classes, this book would be very useful to you.
