Wheel spin & Bullfrog snot

slartibartfast Dec 22, 2008

  1. slartibartfast

    slartibartfast New Member

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    Hi, everyone. I just signed up after reading a thread in the N scale section on what appears to be a new product called Bullfrog snot.

    I had been searching for a solution to poor traction on a Union Pacific 202 that is about 30 yrs old. It doesn't have magnitraction and I get significant wheel spin when pulling only 5 cars up a 2% grade. I was actually searching for some traction tires I could use to modify the wheels when I came across the Bullfrog Snot on eBay. A net search for that lead me to the N scale thread here.

    The asking price for a jar is kind of steep for an unknown product but the thread mentioned that there were samples available so I contacted the manufacturer (known here as rdgnut) and he agreed to send me a sample.

    I will be posting my results here as soon as the sample arrives.
    If possible, I will post before and after videos of the 202.

    All for now,
    Steve
     
  2. localdriver

    localdriver TrainBoard Member

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    it worked good on my n guage diesel engine.hope you have the same results
     
  3. Greg Elems

    Greg Elems Staff Member

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    Care to share the link on eBay?

    Greg Elems
     
  4. Gats

    Gats TrainBoard Member

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    Welcome Slartibartfast.

    Do you have a layout? Does it have fjords? Particularly in an African setting?
     
  5. slartibartfast

    slartibartfast New Member

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    slartibartfast New Member

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    Gary,
    Thanks for the welcome. Glad to see you get the reference to one of my favorite stories. I have the proverbial track around the Christmas tree and all over the living room floor. A big hit with the kids, not so much with the wife:D.

    Steve
     
  7. Greg Elems

    Greg Elems Staff Member

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    Steve,

    Thanks for the link. I'll be interested to learn how it works on O gauge equipment.

    Greg
     
  8. slartibartfast

    slartibartfast New Member

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    Initial results

    OK, I received an entire bottle on the 24th just after I took apart the test track for Christmas day and it has taken me this long to get the time to set it up again.

    Last night I made a "before" video showing the 202 loco spinning it's wheels trying to get going up a hill from a full stop pulling 4 cars. After that I put the Bullfrog Snot on one of the drive axles and let it cure overnight.
    This morning I mad a video of the test run up the same section of track from a full stop. I still had a little wheel spin but nothing like before. If that was as good as I could get I'd be satisfied but I want no spin if possible so I decided to treat the other drive axle. I am now waiting for that application to cure.

    Like many others, I botched the first application. I let it set up a bit before removing. It came off easily with an x-acto knife while running the engine. I discovered that 2 drops was enough material but I needed to spread it out by using the knife as a trowel while the wheel was spinning. It was easy to control and I was left with a very thin even coat.

    My next task is to figure out how to get the videos posted. It looks like I am going to have to set up a youtube account and upload them there.
     
  9. slartibartfast

    slartibartfast New Member

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    Final results

    Well, as far as I am concerned, this stuff works as advertised.

    After coating the second axle, I tested the 202 and ended up with pickup problems at various points on the track. I then proceeded to remove the coating on one of the wheels so I would have one pickup point on the drive truck. I now have an engine that pulls with no wheel spin and no pickup problems.

    The kids will have at it and I will be able to comment on durability in the next few weeks. I have a microscope that I will use to monitor the coating. I will also perform additional pull tests to find the new limit.
     

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