Which points/switches to use?

Jamessmall Aug 21, 2006

  1. Jamessmall

    Jamessmall New Member

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    Hello, I am new to railway modelling, and I am wondering what type of frog points to use. It is a 2m long end to end layout, and I will be primarily running a 0-6-0 loco. What are the best points to use, and why? Also, I have heard that if I were to use electrofrog points, I have to put in 'rail breaks' What are these, and how do I do these?

    Any response appreciated!
    Thanks
    james
     
  2. Colonel

    Colonel Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    James,

    I would recommend you use insulfrog peco points as they do not require insulated joints "rail breaks".
     
  3. Jamessmall

    Jamessmall New Member

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    Would it not be a problem that the loco would not be running at higher speeds?
     
  4. Colonel

    Colonel Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    No it should be ok I use insulfrogs and never have a problem although I run diesels.

    By the way welcome to Trainboard.
     
  5. Jamessmall

    Jamessmall New Member

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    Thanks! Can you also operate points without using motors? I was also wondering if cork or the preballasted underlay is the best. This is my first layout and I am poor!
     
  6. Gats

    Gats TrainBoard Member

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    Moved the thread to The Inspection Pit for greater exposure

    James,

    Welcome to TrainBoard. :)

    As to your question, Peco use an over centre spring arrangement to keep the swicth blade hard against the rail so you can easily flip these types from side to side by hand.
    Peco's insulfrog version requires little additional isolation but the Electrofrog version would be better for your 0-6-0 loco to cross as there is a smaller dead section at the frog.

    As for laying the track, cork would be the less expensive option. You can buy this in sheets and cut to your requirements. Pre-cut is more expensive.

    Hope this helps - I am certain others will be along to add to this
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  7. Jamessmall

    Jamessmall New Member

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    If i am using electrofrog points, do i need rail breaks, and what are they and how do i make them?
     
  8. Gats

    Gats TrainBoard Member

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    Depending on the complexity of your layout design, you may get away with only a few electrical breaks. Then the easiest route is to use insulated joiners made for the purpose. These are plastic versions of the metal track joiners. You simply place them between the point or piece of track and the next piece of track where applicable.

    If you have something in mind layout-wise, please feel free to post it to the layout discussion forum. There are plenty of friendly folk who will be willing to assist you in designing the electrical side of your plan. We are glad to help you. :)
     
  9. Fotheringill

    Fotheringill TrainBoard Member

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    James-

    Welcome to Trainboard. What gauge will you be running?
     
  10. BoxcabE50

    BoxcabE50 HOn30 & N Scales Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    James-

    Welcome to TrainBoard!

    Please tell us what scale you're considering. N? HO? Or???

    :D

    Boxcab E50
     
  11. traingeekboy

    traingeekboy TrainBoard Member

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    I was wondering the same thing about scale? What exact loco are you using.

    If it is a small switching layout there really is no need to use any sort of trackbed aside from the layout surface itself. If you are creative, you can screen material with an old panty hose or mesh screen to get free ballast. There is so much stuff a person can use for free when building a layout.
     
  12. Jamessmall

    Jamessmall New Member

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    Im in OO gauge

    The plan for the layout is a 3 track end to end, but each with return wiring to complete the circuit. Within that I have got 2 crossovers (2 points) from one track to the next, and then the 3rd is a siding with a furthur 2 kick back sidings.
    The entire baseboard is 3ft by 8ft, im rather stuck for space. Its a fictional place called Jackfield Lock, encorporating a canal, and its based on the GWR Line between Bridgnorth and Kidderminster in shropshire.
    Thanks
     
  13. Jamessmall

    Jamessmall New Member

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    Im planning to use a Bachman J39 0-6-0 steam loco and 4200 gallon tender
     
  14. BoxcabE50

    BoxcabE50 HOn30 & N Scales Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Ah. We need to get you chatting with Alan Curtis!

    :D

    Boxcab E50
     
  15. Jamessmall

    Jamessmall New Member

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    how can i talk to him?
     
  16. BoxcabE50

    BoxcabE50 HOn30 & N Scales Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    I've dropped him a note. Hope he'll soon have a free moment, to come say hello.

    :D

    Boxcab E50
     
  17. Alan

    Alan Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Thanks Ken :)

    Hello James, as you are in OO, I guess you are located in the UK? A J39 should run well on either insulfrog or electrofrog points, although my preference is definitely for electrofrog, especially for a slow running layout.

    If you have a trackplan in mind, and can post it here we can illustrate exactly where insulators would be required.
     
  18. EricB

    EricB TrainBoard Member

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    That is a really neat loco you have there. Are the wheels on the tender live? If they are, even at slow speeds, she should crawl pretty good.

    Eric
     

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