I have seen all of that before. It all took place in the '90's and unless I missed something, it has NOT been moved. I have seen photo coverage of it's move into the park, by Stan Kistler, I think. It's unfortunate that such things as RFP's have to be politically introduced into the restoration ( or salvation) of artifacts like the 2921. I was a member of "Friends of Steam" when the bidding wars started with WARM. No, I think she's still in sorry shape and still in the park. As I said before, you guys have the best chance of getting a 2900 running. Do you know Karl Rethwisch from the Pueblo 2912 group? He would be a big help to you.
Hope when the engine was retired, it was in good condition. Keep the updates coming. Following these restorations is always fascinating! Boxcab E50
Wend. 10 Aug. 05 Finshed the last <I hope> part for the bell, <A 3/8 inch thick 3in dia. washer> pardon the color but it was bright out and my camera didnt like it... http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/acs?full=1 Also we started using the ultra sound equipment to get a feel for what we can expect from it, our opperater used the same equipment for many years and the equipment worked as advertised. also bearing replacment has begun, lots to do here, average of 32 bearings on the brake rigging need replacment per truck, and we have 2 of the 8 wheel buckeye trucks. Drawings and notebooks are being prepared to keep track of the work in progress. Broken bearing above the site of the "bell crank" rocker that it goes to. http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/act?full=1 In the office the copies of our drawings continue to be marked and rolled for use. This will preserve the orignals, and allow us to drag a drawing out to the work site. more to come, Gunns What I want for a shop...<G>
Actually the 2926 was shopped in 1955 or 56, just before it was put on display, ostensably for a missle train that would ensure a "Win" in the cold war.... What ever the reason the actual hardware is in great condition, when we moved it the lubricators were working, and when we drained the roller bearings on the tender it looked like the oil was only a week old, the drivers have a new profile and only one of the tender wheel sets has been turned, and it still has lots of "profile" left. In the boiler there is allmost no scale, and during the move all springs and equalisers worked properly... The AT&SF shops did a great job, and we are benifiting greatly. Gunns
Good to hear she is good condition. Should help your work load a bit Fascinating commentary on the restoration
Gunns, Yeah! I would like to have that for a shop, too. Back in the days when Friends of Steam were trying to get 2921, I was putting together what I hoped I could convince the group to use for records during the restoration. Borrowing from the aircraft industry, I wanted to create a "removal book" where each part taken off the locomotive was tagged, and noted in the book, by whom, where it would be, etc. Each of these parts then became "Open" removals, and the finished product couldn't be "signed off" until all the open removals were closed, i.e. all parts reinstalled. We also put all fasteners (salvageable) in a bag attached to the parts that they fastened. Do you use any sort of like system? Please keep up the report on the 2926. It is VERY interesting and informative. Thank you for sharing it with us.
Fritz , Yes we use a simular system, each part removed must be tagged with a metal "shoe" tag and a related report filled out, this report is entered in to a program that tracks it and also links the part to the drawing it is related to. We are fourtunate to have the locomotive folio, and drawings from the AT&SF shops here in Albuqurque. Currently I have one open part, <just closed out the bell> that is part of the brake rigging, mostly sleave bearings looks like I'll need to do about 50 or so of them, <edit- total for both trucks, not just this rocker. 3 for it >, not a problem, the hassle will be boring out the egg shaped holes in the plates... gonna use a "Fly" cutter on a big drill press and either build up with weld matrial or make a shim plate to bring the hole back to the proper size. Gunns [ August 12, 2005, 03:43 AM: Message edited by: Gunns ]
Sat Aug. 13 05 Today was the monthly progress meeting, <minutes at the NMSL web site> after the meeting we went to work. A frame was constructed to support the bell at open houses and displays. http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/acu?full=1 and needle scaling continued on truck #4, also on the tender trucks mesurments and a survey is being conducted to select the sleave bearings that need replacment. On the tender the dunnage has been compleated and is now being attached to the oil bunker, or placed in its location on the water tank. http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/acv?full=1 http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/acw?full=1 http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/acx?full=1 In the office the plans continue to be rolled and made avalible on our working plans storage area. Last a photo of the Back head showing the ATS bracket, and also the spots where we tested the non-destructive testing equipment, http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/acy?full=1 More to come, Gunns Edited cuz I cant spell <sigh> [ August 15, 2005, 10:10 AM: Message edited by: Gunns ]
Wends. Aug 17, 05 Work continues, the Buckeye trucks are still the focus of our efforts, more wear plates were put in place and welded on, the brake bearing survey continues, and the first bell / rocker plate has had the bearings removed, and new bearings are being fabricated <3 ea per plate> a punch has been fabricated for the bearing removal proccess, and works well in our 20 ton press. The maintenence folio calls for the bearings to be made fron mild steel and case hardened, the first is complete and ready for installation. Also the education committe met and discussed our ongoing education project for the local school district. In the office work continues on the restoration / part tracking program and more of the orignal plan sheets have been copied and made avalible for use in the restoration. More to come, Gunns ps, them Buckeyes are big! they are 8 wheelers, which means 4 frames to a side, 36 springs, 20 or more wear plates,well over a 84 bearings in the brake rigging 4 wheel sets <8 Wheels> 1 major and 2 minor pivot points in the frames <more bearings> and a weight of over 22 tons. I am getting tied of Buckeye trucks <Grin> And we hope to not have to "do" another refit for "Years". Gunns
Beautuful Guns, bet you wish they were commonwealth now huh? But that would be pefect for #3767 in Kansas. Iv'e enjoyed these updates alot, thank you guns. I myself had been referancing the DeGolyer SMU archieves for the PSC ATSF 2-10-4 project and came across some of those in the detailed parts drawings. we got some of the detailed photos of the undersides of the boilers and man are they laded w/ detail and plumbling that has been missed in the Santa Fe locomotives. I bet with the new Key Imports will be a hit with you guys. Check out our 5001 classes we're coming out with. The steam firebox detailing on the coal burners I think you will find very nice. If I can ever volunteer for #2926, I'm there. Best to you Guns
Please keep the updates and pictures coming! It's great fun following the work. And I'm learning some things I certainly did not know. Boxcab E50
Sat 20 Aug 05 We had a great day to day. Weather was good and cooler. Sevrale members were in Amarillo to support the move of AT&SF 5000 the Madam Queen to its new display building. At the work site, we managed to replace all the bearings in one of the rocker/bell crank plates on tender truck #13 berings were press fitted and had been case hardened according to instructions in our maintence folio. On the tender trucks needle scaling continues, and the last two spring pockets have been opened and the springs removed for inspection and cleaning. No futher springs were found to be broken, so the score was 1 broken spring out of 72 total springs, and the replacment spring can be orderd. Wood dunnage continues to be attached to the oil tank in preperation for its reinstallation in the tender. Much care has been taken to fit it to the "many" rivits that hold the tank together. The bell display frame was painted and polish was begun on the bell for it's display at a Tricentenial celabration for the City of Albuqurque this coming Saturday. The theme of this on <there will be many spanning the next year> is "Rails in to Albuqurque" more to come, Gunns
Wends Aug24, 05 Today we finshed one of the brake "bell" cranks and re installed it to the tender truck, one down and 7 to go, http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/acz?full=1 also another crank was inspected and is ready for installation but we need to replace a wear plate on the tender truck frame before we can replace that Bell crank. The replacement for the single broken spring has been ordered. The saftey brackets that keep lose brake gear from falling from the trucks needs work, wear zones are being renewed with added stock and re formed to the proper profile. http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/adb?full=1 The bell was polished and the bell display rack was finshed in preperation for the Rails to Albuqurque activity this Sat. in the office, the last sets of drawing were prepared for copy, and futher refinement on the parts / work tracking software continued. http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/add?full=1 other photos, "Lurch" the car mover http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/adc?full=1 And built in ladder access to one of the lubricators <80 in driver in back ground> http://www.railimages.com/gallery/kevinevans/ada?full=1 More to come, Gunns
Kevin, keep 'em coming. I for one am really enjoying this. Do I detect some damage at the crosshead and a missing piston rod?
Jim- Now that you mention it, either the photo angle gives an impression, or there actually is something not quite right. Boxcab E50
Hi All, When we moved the Loco out of the park we dissconected the piston rods and moved the pistons all the way forward to prevent damage from having no steam oil in the pistons. All the parts are labed and in storage. Here is a shot of the front of the Cylinder block with the piston showing. BTW ever see a block with 3 cyls? when the Tender is finshed, <By the end of this year> we will start on the Locomotive, first removing the jacket and asbestos and then preforming a FRA form 4 inspection. after the boiler comes the running gear. In regards to the tender trucks I should be able to run a brake test on on the last half of truck 13 next week. this will require reassembly of two brake cyls and bearings in one more bell crank. Gunns
Thanks for the explanation. Re the three cylinders, the ATSF had that third one up above which I think had to do with drifting, keeping things lubed and balanced. Bob Kittel explained it to me once but at my age I have memory lapses.
