Articulated Locomotives (HO Virginian 2-8-8-2)

Yeah, I was really surprised to be able to access them again and put a message over there on the HO board. I wouldn't be anxious to tie them together yet, as I don't think InfoPop has solved the problem yet. Thanks for putting all the great photos up again.

 

bnsf,
The picture of the colored EM-1 while in frieght mode I have personally, I bought prints of that exact picture in 8X10 size and I think it was 10X14 size as well. I'm not to sure of the biggest size of the picture but I got the 8X10 and the very next size up in prints for hanging on the wall, Of the shop and in my Layout room (the basement) for display! Nice man I love it keep it up and thanks for the B&O 2-8-8-4 link i'll be digging through that one!

 

Guys, this is the 25th post on this thread. We should be heading for page 2 and "the big test" soon. I have to put this shot on here, taken in the UP Laramie yards many years ago. Talk about a collection of engines. There's a 2-8-8-0, a 4-12-2 and two 4-6-6-4's in it.

 

OK, a few more for the weekend. The NYC is to make up for the PRR!


A DMIR 2-8-8-2 and a UP 2-12-2 finish up the group.

[ 17 June 2001: Message edited by: bnsf4354 ]

 

bnsf, you keep amazing me with the photos you come up with. The NYC 544X (Can't read last number but who cares, a Dreyfus streamlined Hudson) more than makes up for that P... still can't say it, photo. Duluth, Missabe and Iron Range had some heavy duty hardware, didn't they? Look a lot like the Great Northerns, and I don't have any of those pix. That shot of UP 4-12-2 is an old one--Got the UP shield on the tender.

 

Thanks for the Kudos, I really enjoy trying post stuff you guys might like without getting too repettitive. I was just looking at the DMIR again---do you see the guy sitting on the front of the cowcatcher? I completely missed him the first time. Might be able to get some GNs next time, but if you want more DMIR that can be arranged too. Don't forget if you have particular favorite type or specific loco you want to see---just say the word!

Happy Fathers Day to all you dads out there---Thankfully I have a great one!

 

For those of you who would like to operate one of these hummers, this is what the Engineer's side looked like in UP Challenger 3950. Where's Watash? I have one of the Fireman's side if anyone is interested.

 

Fitz, The "Potty" photo is not re-touched, only the name was omitted to protect the guilty! I got the subscription for the railroad stories in it, don't you see? (I also added a front-on view back on page one showing the boiler hanging out over the front set of drivers for you). Here is the one I'm studying in the Potty photo:



Fitz, you might have mentioned that steam is up in the Challenger photo above, by the looks of the steam gauge, close to 200 looks like, and the Johnson bar is set dead on center. One thing some people may not know is how we could tell if the front set of drivers was slipping or not.

Notice the twin dials in front of the seat with white needles? Those are mechanical tachometers. As long as the needles both read the same, all wheels are pulling. If one or the other, (usually the front set) slipped, it would show a higher speed on the tach, and we could slack off a tad on the throttle to allow adhesion to grab the rails again. You could also "feel" the engine lurch when they grab, and you could feel it "sag" from loss of pull if they spun.

Sometimes in starting a long string, the front set (with less weight on them) would let go, and spin wildly if you really had the throttle "back in your lap". You got to get off it imediately, because the heat generated will cause the tires to expand enough to come loose from the spoke disk! Then you got more problems than you will be employed long enough to handle.

I have never seen a tire come loose, but I heard of it happening.

[ 18 June 2001: Message edited by: watash ]

 

Yup, the 3950 was alive when that photo was taken. She's dead now. That looks like a C & O monster, Watash. What's with the four extra smokestacks on the cab? That one on the first page--interesting. How did the steam chest swivel like that?

[ 18 June 2001: Message edited by: fitz ]

 

Fitz, those smoke stacks behind the ex-C&O (now RF&P 2-8-8-2 are on a building. On the other photo the boiler is fastened solid to the rear set of drivers. It is the front set that has swung to the right following the curved track, see? Only toy models are made to where both sets swivel so the toy engine will go around an 18" radius curve. Real 4-8-8-4's would go around a 20 degree curve, which is about a 54" radius in HO.



Here's tootin' at Cha'!! HA!

[ 19 June 2001: Message edited by: watash ]

 

Watash, I just wanted to see if anyone would respond to the "smokestack" question. All those diesel guys who talk about "torpedo tube" Geeps haven't seen your photo above, with torpedo tubes on the boiler! Frisco 1522 has them, too. Hey, congratulations on your new moniker, Trainboard's Answer guy.

bnsf, I didn't notice that guy on the pilot of the DMIR engine. It's so huge he just sort of disappears.

I'm not sure if this belongs in this forum, maybe I should start a new one about "unusual" locos. This is UP FEF 815 with an experimental (sure looks like SP skyline) casing on top, for smoke lifting. Guess in the long run the elephant ears worked better, since that's what they used.

 

Here is a shot of an old (1919) photo that has a notation pasted across the bottom that is an unusual engine. The Virginnian RR made this type famous as the Triplex, but the picture is of one made for the Erie RR in 1915. Note this one has a smoke stack at the rear of the tender to exhaust the tender's cylinders. The tender's frame also supported the cylinders and was extra heavy to gain traction.



Then we can also go to another unusual engine. It is a tank type switcher. Water was carried in a tank built over and around the boiler which acted somewhat like a pre-heater. Coal was hauled in a tiny tender pulled behind. This photo is borrowed from a friend who took it while on vacation.



Somewhere years ago, one of the most unusual photos I have seen was a large articulated that had been pushed onto a big turntable by an 0-4-0 with the slope back tender. Both were on the table being turned, so the little 0-4-0 could push the big one into the roundhouse stall. If anyone has a copy of that, please post it for us!

 

Here a few more for today. Most are GNs.








[ 19 June 2001: Message edited by: bnsf4354 ]

 

bnsf, now those are brutish looking. I didn't realize GN was into Belpaire firebox/boiler systems.
Watash that's no front end throttle on that rig. What vintage is it?

 

Fitz, like Pennsy, GN was into Belpaire fireboxes almost to the end, even the S1 4-8-4's had Belpaire fireboxes. AFAIK, only the Mountains, the USRA MIkes, and the S2 Northerns did not have Belpaires, everything else, from 0-6-0 to 2-8-8-2, did.

 

Fitz, that is a 1902 Illinois Central 4-6-0. Wood cab and all. It had the cam driven valve gear. The throttle was maounted horizontally as you can see my left hand on it. (Johnson bar in my right.) The operating rod for the throttle ran just along side the boiler to the belcrank butterfly on the right hand side of the steam dome. Pretty stiff too. She was a runner though, easily topped 100mph in her day with those 6 foot drivers! That is how Cayce Jones got killed, running one like her wide open!

 

Watash,
You should've marked that picture of you in the 4-6-0 "Casey Jones at it again" HE! Running a loco topping off over 100 MPH.. WOW But I know they would run that fast the drivers made that possible. At 6 feet in diameter that had a hellofa revolution on the boost to get the loco running and at a decent amount of speed....

 

Here are my few for today. Can someone tell me what is up with the smoke box on the 2-8-4?? Never seen anything like that before!!! A Cabforward early version included because most never see that version.