Mar 16, 2009
This was exactly my same request early in this thread. I like it!
Atlas recently (well...2007) did the Ph1... the much earlier Atlas/Kato and re-released Atlas Classics are Ph2...
At this time, AZL does not plan on producing the High Hood version of the GP30.
We may re-visit it in the future, but the tooling cost for this version was exceptionally expensive given that only 2 (or 3) roads: Southern, N&W (NS) had this version.
Thanks Ben for the photo, i have just done some looking around and found a beautiful colour pic of some brand new GP30's arriving for Pennsy and the number is a classic "2222"
Hence my vote for a first production scheme is obviously Pennsy with the number as above, 2222.
GP30 roadname update
As the locomotive becomes available this fall we will do a month by month release of roadnames. We have not decided in which order the GP30s will be released, but rest assure; SP and D&RGW GP30's are coming!
Looking forward to see the tiny DRGW GP30.
Ditto! Rio Grande forever.
How about hi-nose southern , N&W, and norfolk southern.I can dream
Sorry guys, no high-hoods that I know of. But that Rio Grande may be making an appearance very soon.
Which road numbers can we expect?
... Did the 3003 actually receive the DRGW large letters?
Sofar I was able to find 3001, 2, 14 and 27.
3003 in what looks like the end of it's life:
Atlas did it in N scale with small lettering as well.
... So, I guess AZL picked at least 1 wrong number in the 3003....
With the 3022 there are 2 wrong numbers.
Funny thing is I know nothing about the Rio Grande. I worke up the other day walked downstairs to the computer and opened this thread. Did a quick google search and posted what I found above all within 10 miniutes of waking up. Research is hard ; )
I am looking forward to this DRGW GP30's, for a long time, so I am a little disapointed here...
... Hopefully AZL reads our concern here.. and can rework the shells and release the DRGW GP30 later but with right numbers. I would like to have at least one correctly painted loco. It would be a waste having to repaint these beautiful painted locomotive. Road numbers are so noticable on DRGW.
I find it always amazing how manufacturer, developing a new model over a couple of years, can't do a 5 min. research in the thing called internet to get something easy prototypical correct. AZL is not alone and it's not limit to Z. Hard ro believe.....
Well you win some and then you loose some.
I will pass this on to AZL. AZL definitely listens to the Z community. The first prototypes of the GP30s actually had the fans wrong. AZL posted the images and the forum members were quick to point out the issue. AZL was able to correct it. I love this story since it is manufacturer and community working together. Of course, this scenario is not always possible, but it did work for the tooling on the GP30.
I personally would love to see the small Rio Grande lettering on a future GP30. I have already mentioned this to AZL.
Mistakes happen. We have released a large number of products in the past few years. Probably more than any two-man outfit I know if. There are well over 100 items on each product that have to be checked, re-checked, and verified at every step to make sure the design, decorations, tolerances, performance, paint colors, and a whole bunch of other things are correct. Frequently, the factory will change things on us without notice or approval, and then there are more delays getting those things straightened out. Then we sometimes have to decide if the offending item is worth a long delay to get it resolved. It's just Hans and I doing all the checking, and we're not perfect, but we try.
There are some days that I think we should cut back the number of road names we produce and just increase the quantity of the ones we do make. That would be the easiest way to reduce errors, and our cost and time commitment too. Yes, we would sell a fewer units, but not that many less, and with the lower cost we would probably wind up ahead on the bottom line even with lower volume. Nobody is in this business to get rich – unless they are fools – we do it because we like it, so we would rather not cut back. But it is something we need to consider.
Our Minimum Order Quantities (MOQ) have gone up dramatically in recent years, so I'm not sure there will be enough demand to see a second run of Rio Grande (or some of the other GP30 road names) We will have to see how sales go, and what kind of feed-back we get from customers and dealers. So far, sales have been good, so I hope I’m proven wrong and we can have many more production runs – you just never know.
Besides, there is a lot of talent in the Z community to re-paint a smaller number of road names into whatever you really want. Your projects stand out as examples of the very best. I trust that you will be able to either re-number, or re-logo the offending Rio Grande to correct our error.
In fairness to Hans, Rio Grande did put both logos on the GP30. It appears we just got the wrong road number on the wrong loco:
Anyway, thanks for pointing out the error - I'll make a note in the file.
Just make it up to us by getting those Mikados out the door : )