1. Southern Rail Fan

    Southern Rail Fan TrainBoard Member

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    Just got my first Intermountain cars, a few covered hoppers. Wow, I had no idea they were so nice! Very impressed with these, I'll have to pick up a few more!
     
  2. Powersteamguy1790

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    I've picked up quite a few reefers in the ATSF roadname. I really like the IM rolling stock. The runs of 6 to 12 different numbers is a great concept.

    It would great if Atlas and MT would follow that concept.

    Atlas occasionally makes a car with two numbers.

    MT doesn't follow that concept.

    Stay cool and run steam.... [​IMG] :cool: :cool:
     
  3. Thirdrail

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    It is just too bad that you can no longer buy InterMountain cars as kits. I still luck out and find an occasional kit now and again at shows. I don't like the job done assembling them in China nor the weight added - they are too light. This is the last kit I purchased.

    [​IMG]

    You can't leave the ice hatches in ventilating position on the ready to run cars!! :confused: :confused:
     
  4. Colonel

    Colonel Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    Greg,

    That is an excellent looking model with a great deal of detail.

    I also like intermountain rollingstock and have quite a few hoppers which run great and look excellent
     
  5. Fotheringill

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    Great work.
    Even though superlatives flow like a stream sometimes, I really mean it.

    They must have the molds or forms or whatever is needed to make kits lying around somewhere.

    Are there any wood laser cut manufacturers of buildings out there with plans for trains?
     
  6. Thirdrail

    Thirdrail In Memoriam

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    Mark, the ready to run InterMountain cars are nothing but assembled kits. At a show about two years ago Brad Herz of Tex-N-Rails told me he had returned over 1000 kits to InterMountain, who sent them to China for assembly. IMRC makes the kits in Colorado and sends them to China for assembly into ready to run cars.

    Too many kits were returned unsold. I will admit it took me three kits to learn the "tricks to easy assembly", and I've been building kits for a half century. Most folks did not want to make the effort. I found the WP-PFE reefer last December in a box under a vendor's table. He had them, but I had to ask.
     
  7. BoxcabE50

    BoxcabE50 HOn30 & N Scales Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    I actually enjoyed building their kits. Had a method to my madness. I'd developed my own mini-assembly line type process. And could turn them out quickly. Easily. Adding weight to my satisfaction. And body mounting couplers.

    :D

    Boxcab E50
     
  8. r_i_straw

    r_i_straw Mostly N Scale Staff Member

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    I put together a 40 car PFE reefer train. I started with about 20 kits. After the first ten it became very tedious but I struggled on and finished all the kits. Since then I have bought the assembled IM cars and filled out the train with an assortment of Microtrain PFE reefers.
     
  9. Fotheringill

    Fotheringill TrainBoard Member

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    I just ordered 4 kits. I will count the lessons learned.
     
  10. Thirdrail

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    Mark, since you just ordered four kits, here are three suggestions that will make assembly and use much easier. First, get a good sprue cutter. it is very easy to damage some of the InterMountain parts, like brake piping, brakewheels, and handgrabs, cutting them from the sprues. Second, drill all the mounting holes for tiny parts with a No. 78 drill before attempting to mount the part - paint partially closes many holes. Third, weigh the car before you seal it up as you will have to add a weight, not furnished.

    I've used Tenax 7R to assemble mine and found it works well.
     
  11. Fotheringill

    Fotheringill TrainBoard Member

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    Thank you. There are now four less lessons to be learned the hard way.
     
  12. BoxcabE50

    BoxcabE50 HOn30 & N Scales Staff Member TrainBoard Supporter

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    All excellent suggestions.

    This is the best way to mount and glue all those small parts. By opening up the holes clear through the body, a TINY droplet of Tenax, or your favorite, can then be applied from the inside of the car. It will flow around the part due to capillary action. Neat and clean.

    :D

    Boxcab E50
     
  13. david f.

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    Good idea about drilling through the part to mount and glue from behind. i'll do that.

    My question is: how do you add weight? Plates, lead pellets, what?

    I went to the Intermountain factory in Longmont, CO last Wednesday. They give you a nice tour of everything. Met great people, saw the mold making process, and enjoyed myself immensely. These are quality folks making quality products. If you ever get to Denver, go the extra 30 minutes north and check it out.
    Dave
     
  14. Flash Blackman

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    You need to add weight to the reefers by removing the roof. If the roof is ACCed on, then you could use a debonder to remove it.

    I once got an assembled car and the roof was off to one end about 2 scale feet! But, it was ACCed on and I was able to adjust it. I am not sure if the reefers are put together with ACC.

    Also, concur on all on the IM cars. I prefer them to most others. Easy to body mount couplers and to adjust the height.
     
  15. loco1999

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    I like them too.

    I glued 2 nuts in each end of this kit so it is 1.1 oz.

    [​IMG]

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  16. BoxcabE50

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    For my efforts, I've experimented with various metals. Old tire weights. Old fishing weights. I've a scrap piece of sheet lead to trim pieces from. Even tried steel shot (BB).

    Just be certain to distribute the weight evenly. From end to end. AND side to side.

    :D

    Boxcab E50
     
  17. Powersteamguy1790

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    David:

    A-Line makes lead weights in sheets that you can cut up to fit each car.

    Stay cool and run steam.... [​IMG] :cool: :cool:
     
  18. Fotheringill

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    BB's are pretty easy to do if you want to get exact NMRA weighting standard weight.

    Get a digital Weight Watchers type scale and weigh the car and add enough BB's (you can get the cheap ones - copper not required) and a strip of cardboard cut to size to bring up to standard weight. Glue the BB's to the cardboard evenly distributed and let dry completely. Place it in the car. I suggest this in case of an "oops". If so, just toss the cardboard and start over. It is better than scraping dried BB's off the car, or worse, warping or otherwise damaging the car with whatever you are using to loosen the glue already used on the car.
     
  19. WPZephyrFan

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    Even though it's before my era, that's a sweet looking WP reefer! Chuck never told me that IM made any. I bet he's keeping all the goodies for himself! ;)
    There's a photo on page 44 of the Western Pacific Color Pictorial of one such car in Iowa in 1955. I've always liked that photo...
     
  20. Erik W

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    I really enjoy building our kits as well. I've built many. Unfortunately the kits sell very poorly. In many respects they are easier to produce then the RTR cars. Obviously we don't have to send them to the factory for assembly. In the last several years we've seen a rather dramatic drop in kit sales. The market has literally disappeared. While we do get occasional feedback asking for kits, our kit sales don't mirror that feedback. To prove my point I can show you a warehouse full of these things.

    David, It was great to have you. We always enjoy showing our customers around the shop and explaining what’s involved in making our products (I particularly like showing the tooling area).

    Erik Welch
    Production Coordinator
    InterMountain Railway Company
     

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