N scale intermodal-- whats still missing?

jsoflo Apr 24, 2007

  1. ns737

    ns737 TrainBoard Supporter

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    flatbeds are used to hual containers all the time . i have hauled many of them . that is way you see them in yards
     
  2. Doug A.

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    You're right, I have seen many containers "strapped" to a flatbed.

    But I've never seen a container-on-flatbed-on-flatcar...they would normally just load the container into a well or on a flat with pedestals. I think the railroad and shippers would be a little nervous about a container not held in place by interconnects or guides. (or wells) According to the management at the Alliance ramp, it is policy to not even load a loaded container-on-chassis onto a train. I've seen this setup on a train, although I had no way of knowing if they are loaded or not. The way he phrased his statement, I suspect it happens, and often, but it's just officially frowned upon.

    It's normally only been either empty flatbeds, new flatbeds stacked 3-high, or very occassionally a flatbed with a load of some type loaded on a flat car.

    Regardless, WE NEED FLATBEDS!
     
  3. daniel_leavitt2000

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    For trailers we need:
    48' sheet-post Stoughton or Pines style
    48' Sheet-post with roll up door
    53' Sheet-post with standard and roll up door
    48' modern cluted reefer
    28' platewall pup
    28' QUALITY UPS style pup (the Ultimate kits don't cut it).

    I woulden't mind if these were resin as long as they were very high quality kits such as the old Alan Curtis pups. N-Scale-Innovations also had very nice kits available. I would love to see some etched trailer kits as these would be fairly inexpensive to develop and would look good. They would also look great with open doors.

    As for trailer decals, we could use some Fed-Ex, Xtra Lease, Schnider, Swift
     
  4. jsoflo

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    Steven,
    first, maybe a recommendation to start this as a new subject thread so others not interested in "missing intermodal stuff" might reply?

    As for trailers, we need more 53' trailers and I have 3 recommendations for names not previously done (or done in only one older style) but I would be interested to see what the overall interest in them is:
    Clipper reefer trailers
    Crowley trailers
    Florida Express Carriers

    Great stuff!
    Jan
     
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  5. jsoflo

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    A couple photos I had for the Crowley and Florida Express trailers I spoke of:
     

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  6. LADiver

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    Those UP triples were designed to haul automobiles. I shot them in Omaha in 91, they were already side lined then. Not potatoes.
     
  7. Greenlightintermodal

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    40' Husky Stack AP well cars

    I found something else we don't have in N scale - no scale except 1:1 has it - the new Husky stack rebuild with 40 ' wells. WITH hitches at both ends still.-

    Here's the post from the Intermodal forum with the link:

    "Administrator said:
    May 9, 2007 7:36 AM

    What's This ?

    http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/rsPicture.aspx?id=221245

    Looks like a 40' husky stack. New paint - a rebuild into a shorter 40' versions ?

    StevenAdministrator
    GreenlightIntermodal.info"
    INTERMODAL FORUM: http://intermodal.gogreenlight.info/User/Categories.aspx
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    I now understand that this is a 3-unit drawbar connected set, The other two units are at the rrpictures site also. trailer hitches at both ends. Also some articulateds are being shortened.

    Let the bashing begin..........
    SIC
     
  8. James Costello

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    Trailer Wish List

    My want list is as follows:
    1) 53' Wabash Platewall Highway Trailer (Schneider, Werner, Dart, Xtra Lease - JB Hunt, Knight)
    2) 53' Wabash Duraplate Highway Trailer (Schneider, May, Interstate, Werner, pretty much everyone has them)
    3) 53' Wabash Duraplate HD Highway Trailer (reinforced bottom rail - Schneider, Dart, Messila Valley, Alliance)
    4) 48' Pines Sheet & Post Trailer (Santa fe, ATSF/JB Hunt "Quantum", BNSF)

    These are all prototypes that are very close to models already made from prominent N manufacturers...so it wouldn't be a stretch to see them in N. There are already rumours about some of them, and as such, aren't on my 'wish' list for new products.

    What else I would like to see are:
    1) Stoughton 45' Sheet & Post Trailer - the 40' boxcar of the 80's and 90's. Far more common than the Pines version. I could get rid of the phony Atlas schemes too.
    2) Stoughton (or similar) 48' Sheet and Post - see above, moreso for the 90's and still seeing a lot of miles for UPS / USPS, particularly in USAZ service.
    3) UPS 28' Drop Frame, 45' and 48' straight frame trailers (roll up doors)...both old and new UPS schemes.
    4) 53' Utility Trailer (Interstate Distribution amongst others)
    5) 28' Wabash platewall pups (Yellow Freight etc)
    6) 53' Corrugated Sided Reefers (Stevens, England etc)

    Decal wise, I'd like to see some of the reporting mark patches that are common on 45' and 48' trailers - particularly the USAZ ones (both the ones similar to the XTRA red patch with yellow text and the plain text) that are extremely common on their second hand trailers. I've got photos if manufacturer's are interested in the research. There's a large variety of second hand trailers in the lease fleets today, so patches for the reporting marks and 'ghost' lettering would be awesome.

    Trademark issues aside, UPS decals would also be handy if the MMW project eventuates. Not sure what Kel has up his sleeve there though. I could use some for the Ultimate shell I have aside too.

    There's still a lot out there that could be done, fortunately there are a lot of paint schemes that are applicable for the common trailers, so convincing someone it's worth their while shouldn't be impossible.
     
  9. Gordon Werner

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    that looks like the Gunderson Maxi-III Short Stack ... chopped 53' well cars made to fit the more common 40/20+20 containers

    Deluxe is working on the tooling for them

    [​IMG]
     
  10. James Costello

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    Except that
    a) the Maxi-III short stacks are articulated, not draw-barred stand alone units (Husky Stacks)
    b) the Maxi-III short stacks aren't All Purpose (different side profile, floor etc).

    And the Short Stacks are cut down 48' Maxi-III's (5x 48' wells), not 53' Maxi-IV's (3x 53' wells) which are still needed for domestic use.
     
  11. Ryan 79

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    All Different types of trailers

    here.

    http://www.makemymodel.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=28_42&osCsid=84d49a49f31d5f873d46499c68927909

    Tankers, belly dump, livestock, end dump, 48 and 53 ft swing and roll up door dry vans.

    We need a larger selection of 53' dry vans, and a 53' CONTAINER CHASSIS.

    And in the real world(1:1), there are a lot of container haulers who use a plain flatbed trailer that have the dogs welded in the trailer. The container is set on the flatbed, and the dogs are locked just like they are on a container chassis. When you see a container going down the road on a flatbed with no chains and straps on it, the flatbed has the dogs installed to haul containers.
     
  12. jagged ben

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    Yay! Another kitbash project for the Con-cor all purpose husky stack.
     

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