Some Carving

loco1999 Jul 28, 2004

  1. loco1999

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    Some Carving

    Well this is what I've got so far.

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    Any ideas or feedback.

    Thanks,
    Loco1999
     
  2. DaveD

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    I would go higher on the tunnel mountain. You can use plaster to kind of run the layers together a little more to give it a smooth transition.

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  3. Pete Nolan

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    I'd agree to go a little higher on the mountain, as the prototype usually preferred cuts to tunnels, and this, as presented, seems to me to be in the cut category. But not much higher--we do make compromises as modelers.

    My point in another way--railroads don't tunnel through anything unless absolutely necessary. You're showing a scene with a 22-foot high tunnel that has only 13.3 feet of rock above it. I think a 35.3-foot cut would be far quicker to build. So add a bit of height to make the tunnel more realistic.

    But, remember, we do make compromises as modelers.
     
  4. Powersteamguy1790

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    Loco1999:

    See my posts in the RW forum.
     
  5. loco1999

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    Thanks,

    I'll give that a try.

    Loco1999
     
  6. loco1999

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    Thanks for more info.

    Ok, I know this looks crappy.
    I paint it to see the contours
    and I can still add newspaper
    wads and plaster cloth or putty.

    I also think if part is ok,
    It will need 2 or 3 coats of
    latex to cover it. I add ground
    foam on the final coat.

    This is the overall area.
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    This part seems pretty good.
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    I think this part needs work,
    not smooth flowing.
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    What do you think?
    Feedback, ideas, advise wanted...

    Thanks,
    Loco1999
     
  7. Powersteamguy1790

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    Loco1999:

    Plaster cloth and hydrocal will allow you to carve "relief" in the lanscape. Then you can use what ever ground cover you want.

    You can only expect so much out of the foam.

    Since your terrain is in Utah, it isn't flat rolling hills.

    My terrain is out west and I used plaster cloth, hydrocal and rock castings.

    This my opinion FWIW. ;)
     
  8. loco1999

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    I did cover 95% of the brown with plaster cloth.

    I am having some trouble with scale,
    I didn't want to make rolling hills.

    I was going to add to the height
    over the tunnel. I guess I need
    to add some height elsewhere.

    How much?

    UT, Like a canyon near Provo.

    Here is a ground level shot.
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    Thanks,
    Loco1999
     
  9. Powersteamguy1790

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    Loco1999:

    See my post in RW forum. [​IMG]
     
  10. atsf_arizona

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    Loco1999,

    And for an alternate opinion, for me, the scenery you have is looking pretty good, the proportions and size of the hills (with the exception of the tunnel) is realistic in the amount of space that is there (i.e. the ground slopes at a realistic rate).

    I agree with PSG1790 and Skibbe that more height on the mountain is good as it assures that a tunnel was justified.

    As for ground color, I think the ground cover would benefit from being lighter, the level of brown there now probably will show as being a little too dark?

    Keep up the good work, and keep experimenting, and most of all, keep doing what You want to do! (smile).
     
  11. atsf_arizona

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    BTW, I used plaster cloth on my layout, for what it's worth. Volume 11 of the Community Webshots home page below my signature has shots that can be used for comparision. Hope it helps give ideas or save some time for you.
     
  12. atsf_arizona

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    Also, start playing with backdrops, now is the time to match the hills and the backdrops (learned that from experience).

    For example, if you're going to use Walthers Backdrops (easily avail and cheap), then put it against your hills and build the hills accordingly.

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    If I'd searched in advance for backdrops, then I would not have had to re-do my hills to accomodate.
     
  13. loco1999

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    Thanks for the advise.
    I'll shape around/above the tunnel
    Still need to work on the middle.

    The brown is a gallon, add white to lighten?
    This is how is looks with the ground foam.
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    I looked at Volume 11, It is pretty helpful.
    I liked the small model of the layout too.
    I'll work on a backdrop, good idea.

    I've been to most national parks in Utah.
    I'll have to break out the photo albums.

    I think I'm sticking to the north end for
    the look, maybe more on the next one. [​IMG]

    Thanks,
    Loco1999
     
  14. HemiAdda2d

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    VERY nice work!
    The Tunnel Motor looks nice in that scenery, just need about 8 more..... [​IMG]
     
  15. atsf_arizona

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    Loco1999, your diorama looks good, if that's what the brown is going to turn out like on your layout, that will look great. Go for it!
     
  16. Colonel

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    Loco I have to agree the diorame looks excellent so I would go with that as well. Keep posting the pictures I enjoy seeing your progress.
     
  17. loco1999

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    Thanks.

    I'll work on it and then post some more.

    Loco1999
     
  18. loco1999

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    I tried to smooth the hills on the front right
    and continue the drainage into the flat section.

    Is it getting better or worse?

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    Thanks,
    Loco1999
     
  19. Powersteamguy1790

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    Loco1999:

    Perhaps it is best to take a "time out " for the time being and work on another aspect of your layout.

    Then you could get a fresh perspective of what you are trying to accomplish.

    This is my opinion FWIW. ;)
     
  20. loco1999

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    Ok, maybe I took a wrong turn.
    I do believe I can fix it.

    Add the pink foam piece in the
    corner or not? or add more?

    Any other proportion problems?

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    Also,

    a road up to the yard area:

    dirt, gravel, or paved?

    Thanks,
    Loco1999
     

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