Southern Pacific RSD 4/5 paint scheme question

stefano May 2, 2011

  1. stefano

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    HI
    I have just add a new model in my collection
    It is the ALCO RSD-4/5 road switcher 5294 of the SP
    This locomotive has a black paint scheme with the front and back parts in silver and on the side a orange orizzontal stripes
    Can someone tell me in what period was this paint scheme used?
    Thanks very much for your reply
    stefano
     
  2. BarstowRick

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  3. stefano

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    Hi Barstowrick
    thanks again for your reply
    I have to rectify the question in that i was mistaken about the orange stripes
    The loco has a black overall colour
    it has silver front and back ends
    Its right/left sides have small litle dash/stripes a tiger like stripes
    On both side of the hood its logo southern pacific in orange
    What period is this paint scheme representative for ?
    thanks again
    stefano
     
  4. BarstowRick

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    That was a early paint scheme that SP tried out. You should find it on the last website address I gave you.
     
  5. stefano

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    Hi Barstowrick
    Unfortunately i cannot find this scheme
    the loco RSD-4/5 is numbered 5294
     
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  7. BarstowRick

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    Thanks Bremmer, for the kind words.

    Now we can all rest having found it.
     
  8. stefano

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    Thanks Bremner and Barstowrick
    for the help
    In another reserch i have done it seems that the tiger striped paint scheme for switcher survived until the early 60's
    Can you confirme this? I am trying to fit this ALCO RSD-4/5 in the very early 60's time period
    thanks very much
    stefano
     
  9. Flash Blackman

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    This photo from 1965. See Richard Percy's Espee Modelers Website. Ex T&NO engine.
     
  10. stefano

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    HI Flash
    thanks for the nice pic
    I can see that the loco fuel thank was painted over the stripes at same points possibly at later stage
    Does anybody know if this was a rule for all the locos or if was applied at random ?
    thanks for your reply
    stefano
     
  11. bremner

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    Stefano, the tank stripes are a factory item, when the SP/T&NO repaintedthe units, they almost never painted the tank stripes again, since they were harder to mask
     
  12. stefano

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    Hi Bremner
    thanks very much for your reply
    regards
    stefano
     
  13. stefano

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    I know that the tiger stripes paint schemes was officially phased out in 1958 but could switchers locomotives like the RSD-4/5 be find in this tiger stripes paint scheme in the early 1960's?
    thanks for your reply
    stefano
     
  14. USAF_Andrew

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    I am about 90% sure there were some around in the 60s. They just stopped painting them in the scheme in 58, and repainted them by attrition. They didn't go out of there way to paint them untill they really needed it.
     
  15. stefano

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    Hi USAF Andrew
    thanks very much for your much appreciated reply
    stefano
     
  16. Mike VE2TRV

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    I agree - it usually takes about ten years (sometimes more) before an "old" paint scheme is completely replaced by a new one. On the CNR, one could still see some green-and-yellow locos in the late 60s (or later) even if the official paint scheme was the black and red "noodle" since about 1961 or so.
     
  17. BarstowRick

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    That all be true.

    A lot of the RSD's kept their original paint scheme until their demise.
     
  18. stefano

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    Thanks very much for the precious information always very much appreciated!

    Last sunday there was a national convention here in Cape Town South Africa of the railroad modelers and vendors
    It was the only one around here were i leave for 7 years
    I found not much of new items but a lot of second hand locomotives by Atlas
    I bought some of them all ATLAS ho and they appear to be in a not too bad conditions but they were heavily used and needed a clean up
    I like old transitional era diesels like ALCO's and EMD's
    I love American railroads which i repute to be the real essence of railroading and i very much prefer ATLAS since i started playng with my N scale european trains when i was in Italy
    Most of the locomotives are from the mid 1990's some of them were produced by ATLAS only once
    I am struggling to find information about them but here i seem to be getting on with my reserch thanks to the knowledgable members of this website
    thanks again
    stefano
     
  19. BarstowRick

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    You are more then welcome.

    Sounds like loads of fun.

    Those Atlas loco's aren't bad and should serve you well. I still have some of the early N Scale ones from the 70's plying the rails of my layout.

    A friend who operates an HO layout has one of my early Atlas GP9's, with a Kato Mechanism and now with a decoder, running around his layout. Look for the older locomotives with the Kato drive mechanism. They are a real "Find". Grin.

    For F type of units FT's, F3's, F7's. For N scale you can look at InterMountain and Kato.

    Seems to me you said you were working with HO. In that case I would point you toward Athearn and Stewart with the Kato drive mechanisim.

    You are certainly living in a interesting place. Some what envious.
     
  20. stefano

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    Hi Rick
    Do some of the Aethern locomotives HO have Kato motor or mechanism ?
     

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