Is it possible with all the experience and wisdom out there, that a manufacturer's list be posted, listing the name of each manufacturer and their warranty? In Mantua's catalog, they proudly quote theirs, but in the Atlas, theres nothing. The Walter's catalog also fails to mention loco warranties.
That would be interesting because other than Mantua and Bachmann, I've never heard of any warranties. If it doesn't work out of the box, return it to the dealer that you bought it from. Bachmann will replace product, but it may not be the same as you sent in.
LikeLike out of Baltimore gaves a life time warranty on the proto 2000 ,perhaps maybe the 1000 series. Return shipping expenses may apply depending on the date of purchase. Stewart out of Pennsylvania gives life time on their FT A & powered B, but I don't know about the rest of their products. Rivarossi discontinued using Model-Expo, so who knows????????????????
I'll repair any AHM/Rivarossi locos that were carried by AHM that needs repaired at the cost of the parts I need to order for the item!!!! I got a supplier that carries tens of thousands of old AHM/Rivarossi parts. I'm the only known repairman in the USA for this. As the old saying goes "I have something thats as rare as a chicken tooth" !!!! I own a repairs book that carries all AHM products that Rivarossi made for AHM in the U.S. Its a parts guide and a listing of every part not to mention a diagram of each loco and if any intermediate mid production changes were made by Rivarossi to their loco's and what the difference may have been. A very costly book none the less and a very helpfull investment at that!!!!! Now don't get me wrong its not for the new drive that Rivarossi was selling to Model Expo though. Its only for I.H.C. and Rivarossi carried AHM products. I can get any part for I.H.C. Premier as well. What I mean is this anything that was made prior to 1980 by Rivarossi I can repair and get parts for. Anything new from 1980 to the present I can't get parts for but anything that Macano made for I.H.C. I can get parts for even Premier I.H.C. [ 11 April 2001: Message edited by: 7600EM_1 ] [ 11 April 2001: Message edited by: 7600EM_1 ]
<font color="336633">I supose we are lucky in England, we are protected by Consumer rights, if the product (what ever it is) goes wrong in an unresonable time the shop you got it from has to either refund or replace the item, its the same for everything from washing machines to Atlas locos.</font>
Well I don't know about 7600EM_1, but when one of my prized engines is running rough or won't run, I fix them myself. You got to have patience and a little know how to repair an engine. PS, Just don't get too mad if you can't remember which part goes where. Take your time, with a little blood, sweat & tears you'll get the job done!
Will, I Know John,(7600EM_1) and I wouln't write him off to fast, he does my Rivarossi Locos and he's good to go to when you get in a jam. He has found more knowledge about these Locos than I'll ever know and has ways to get the parts to fix them.
Sounds ok to me then, but I'd like to learn on my own and if I can't seem to get things right I'll gladly send them to him for repairs or repainting.
Loco2, John Patton is a professional model maker with some ten years experience, and does re-pairs, re-builds and can most of the time supply parts for the older Rivarossi equipment. He also does custom conversions, and painting. I can reccommend him as fair, honest, and reasonable in his pricing. You can e-mail John at: yellowstone10@hotmail.com He is located in Meyeradale, Pa.
Agreed with all who has added their plead to my knowledge. But also i'm not just a straight repairman for Rivarossi but I also repair any other manufacturer!!! Doesn't matter what the size, the shape, or age!!!! My repair shop moto is: "Not One Job To Big Or To Small". Not only all that but not just one scale such as HO!! I work on most of the popular scales, N through G scale. And all this applies to: factory quallity or better repairs, modification, painting/repaints, any and all types of electrical precedures as well. I do the very best of my ability!!!! I take the jobs I get as if they are my own, and wouldn't do any work less then satisfactory to my own trains so that insures me that my high standards are in fact respected by the items owner. "If it satisfies me i'm sure it will satisfy the owner" Thats the very intention of the work I do...... [ 13 April 2001: Message edited by: watash ]
John, Did you ever get that info on my Challenger dug up? I have a feeling that it's not the only rebuilt Rivarossi on my rails! That Pere Marquette 2-8-4 Berkshire I bought from The Great Train Store before they went out of business might be! They wre a chain of hobby stores that went out of business around August 2000. Will; I told John and everyone else here about the train show coming up May 19 & 20 to Somerset PA at the former ice rink behind the Ramada by the Turnpike entrance. Hope it's as good as or better than last year's.
Mike, So far, no good as it seems the background on that Challenger of yours wasn't even built for the US market!!!!! The way my supplier talked about the numbers on that loco it wasn't sold in America!!!!! So in other words theirs alot of "Hush, Hush" about that one so far he said to trace the numbers more to give him some more time to see what happens, and to see if anything pops up. If so All I can say is its exactly what I told you it was and its being hid from the fact that it was a reconditioned one and its wanted to be hid that it was and done very poorly...... But as he said, hes only gotten into the first stages of tracing it (basic stages) hes going to get down deep into that one because he said it registers to be made and sold but NOT in the US. How this is known is the serial numbers in different places on it does not say that in its background sheets that their is no record of it in the US. The record of it is just that it was built and sold no other such information is possible on it at the moment. Bring that 2-8-4 Berk around so I can get the numbers off it and i'll give those to him as well. Just to make him work for his pay check. If and when you do I got alittle good news for us both on a loco we both own!!!! Ask me about it or i'll forget to tell you... My mind is like my computer!!!!! The hard drive is maxed out ... HEE HEE but i'll clear it up in a few days to catch up with everything so....... [ 14 April 2001: Message edited by: 7600EM_1 ]
7600EM1 All that, and the 'Watash' seal of approval! As they say in Texas,"you done good!". It's nice to know you're out there John. 2slim
Here's one for you John, I've got an old Rivarossi steam loco that hasn't been run in 20 yrs. The driver and truck flanges won't run on my code 70 rail. Is it worth re wheeling it or should I just let it sit near the roundhouse as scrap?
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ChrisDante: [QB]The driver and truck flanges won't run on my code 70 rail.QB]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> <font color="336633">Have you got a laythe or piller drill? If you have then you could just turn the flanges down on a laythe or chuch them in a piller drill and run a needle file on the flange to make it smaller.</font>
Chris, First off what Rivarossi loco is it?????? It can yes be rewheeled. Sadly it will only have wheels to run on code 83. Its an old AHM/Rivarossi correct???? Well I take it that it is from you saying it wasn't run for 20 years. So to my knowledge, All I can say is that i'm possitive that I know I can make it run on code 83 track, depending on the wheel size in diameter. It takes replacmemnt of all the wheels to do so, but worth it sometimes. I know I had to replace every wheel on every Rivarossi steamer I own to run on code 83 track. And DO NOT try to turn those wheels down!!!! They have plastic wheel centers and a nickle wheel "tire" (the wheel tread) and if the nickle tire gets hot it will melt and distort the plastic and when you run that loco it will look like an ole drunk!!!! The heat from turning them will throw the wheel out of round and make a mess not worth fixing. Watash should plead his say to this as well. Don't get me wrong though, replacment of all the wheels is costly, depending on what loco you have. I've done tons of jobs like this. And its fun and alot of head scratching going on at the same time. To replace them you have to remove them all and install the new ones. Hence the fact that its a steam loco you have to have the wheels perfectly quartered to run smooth. Which takes time. If you'd happen to get just one wheel not in the quarted limit it will hang up and stall the loco and even burn up the motor depending on how fast you are at killing the power to it. I've seen guys do this and break side rods and even bend axles. Thats why I made a gauge to perform this task everytime successfully!!! Then after they meet the gauge I made all I have left is do alittle tweaking them to make it even smoother. All and any type of work in this hobby takes time. Good work and quallity work takes even more time to make it right and run like a swiss clock. All my locos are in fact swiss quallity running capabilities!!!!! And anyones loco that coms to my hand will get the very treatment as if it "IS" mine. That way I know that i'm satisfied with it the owner will be too. Got questions e-mail me at yellowstone10@hotmail.com I'll gladly look over any problems and do my best to help and or give sugestions on what to do and or how to fix it even if that fails you can ship it to me and i'll do the work right the first time........ THANKS EVERYONE!!!
2slim, THANKS. I am out here and is willing to do whatever work anyone needs done. This is a job out of a dream..That came true for me I love to work and go to work everyday...... Thats more then most Americans can say. When I first got into repairs and custom painting I thought to myself "When I get older I don't want to wake up every morning and hate the fact that I have to go to work" Well I made that dream come true!!!!! Here I am and loving every second of it. Actually to be honest in this hobby the challenge gets me. When someone says that something can't be done, the very next second its on my mind and being thought out to prove that "YES" it can be done and in a week, a month I proved that it could have been done. I'm very mechanically inclined to the fact that I can't be taught anymore then I already know. I work in waves, when I got one drying or cooling from a soldier job i'm working on something clear different. All in all not to mention I have a bunch of my own locos to work on and their getting done too between times from one to the other. I also get "walk ins" from day to day. I keep busy and keep the goods comming out to the hands of the owners. I respect the customers that I have, for the simple reason they respect me. I'm not any type of proud. I just like the job and the result of the name I make for myself. The work goes on if the name goes on and is quality. [ 14 April 2001: Message edited by: 7600EM_1 ]
John, you never cease to amaze me! For something that was rebuilt poorly, it still runs like a swiss watch! If that's poorly, I'd like to see what pure out done bad is!!! I'll get that 2-8-4 up to you as soon as I can.
