The greenbrier logging and sawmill r.r.

OleSmokey Aug 14, 2015

  1. Kevin Anderson

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    Nice shots. I use the tapatalk app on my phone. By pressing the + sign it gives you an option to add pics. If I use my camera I will use my laptop or desktop.


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  2. OleSmokey

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    Ok, Thanks for that. I only used it when we were off line trip and waiting for serviceman to hook us up again. It shows anything i have replyed to and i like that it works so good. But now that i have my computer up and running i will most likley not use it to mu
     
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    I have that Donkey pretty much done. I need to finish teh roof but it is weathered and looks pretty good to me. Also have a shot of my next model to build. Shots below, Dan
     
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    It is done...Only took me what 5 days?? One mean kit but i like the results!! That long "rocket" is next, Dan
     
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  5. OleSmokey

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    Working on the country store complex. Painting before i add the windows and other things. Not to bad looking. I had to kit bash a bit as the store is or was bigger than the feed store. I also added a couple of sliding doors on the track side. If i can get the paint to look right i can get started with the rest of it. I still have the spar tree to finish but am taking a break from it. My eyes have been hurting so i am slowing down on the work for now. Thats all for now, Dan

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    I got the company store complex done. I am also working with some leaves, wood chips left over from when i added stumps and some little pieces left over from kit builds or scratch building. I mixed that with cinder ballast. Let me know what you think about how it looks. I still have dust from having that chopped up dust floating around. Don't think i want to do that with a blender again..... Dan
     
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  7. BoxcabE50

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    I keep looking at that little donkey skidder/yarder. Nice.
     
  8. OleSmokey

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    Its a KMP model. I don't have any ideas as to where you can get them other than Fifer Hobby. I first saw it on his site. That one and the spar kit were both there. Dan
     
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    I took the ballast and throwed it back in the blender again. It needed to be ground up more to make the wood and leaves to be smaller. I let it just grind till i almost couldn't see the Wood. So i got my spray bottle out and did the roadbed, then i did the grass and got it the way i liked and replaced the Donkey and the Barnhart Loader. Thats done. I need to pace bushes and trees there yet but thats all.

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    Looks really good Dan , Mike
     
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    Did a few other things to get the scene done. I need to find a place for a family of bears. I need to finish the spar pole yet. I added the bushes and will be adding more of the cinder mix when i can get back there. Not today but i need to get the layout turned so i can work in the bridge area and the spar pole too. Maybe Monday..A few other shots so have a good weekend, Dan

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    It's very difficult to tell that's Unitrack under there, looks great. I will have to keep leaf bits as ballast in mind

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    "I will have to keep leaf bits as ballast in mind." Don't use the veins or stems. Just the leafy parts themselves.
    I have been working on all the track that comes from the tunnel to the logging camp. Its all painted, Ballasted and Looks really good to me. I have to fix one bridge as one of the cans i was using to hold down the track while drying took a trip on its own. Will have that done tomorrow. pic's below. hard to tell its kato track.... I got the spar pole done. I have a log hanging on the return line. Its close to the tunnel entrance. Show that one below, Dan

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    I like it. The log hanging there being pulled up and over to the log pile. The barnhart loader doing its job and cars getting ready to go. Coming out better than i thought it would., Dan

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    Wow. This is really looking great!
     
  16. randgust

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    Huge improvement. One thing you won't see on eastern logging railroads is stone ballast, or even on those that organized as common carriers, much of it. Cinders were generally free and plentiful if it was a coal-fired operation. Subroadbed dirt with just ties laid on top of it was often typical.

    Two shots: Typical logging spur track on Wheeler & Dusenbury, about 1920: http://www.randgust.com/WDcamp11.jpg. Ballast? What's that?
    "Main line" of the railroad at a creek crossing; There's dirt in the center, no real shoulder ballast though: http://www.randgust.com/HVbridge1908.jpg
    Generally no treated ties, no tie plates, and disturbingly light rail 60lb or less was the rule.

    So whatever you can do to 'bury the track' and lower it helps. I don't use any subroadbed at all on my logging lines, just a hint of rock ballast mixed with dirt on the 'main', and a dirt, cinders,and-leaf mix on any spurs and secondary tracks right up to the tie tops.
     
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    A quick bit to add here, for those operations sophisticated enough to use ballast, it was usually what I know as being termed "pit run". That is straight from the ground to loading. No washing, no crushing, no screening and sorting. Mostly sand, dirt and stone which is rounded and known by some as "marbles". Those marbles provided some support and drainage, two of the three primary reasons for ballast, but were a bear to maintain. Without the facets of crushed stone, it did not lock. Thus was difficult to tamp and did a poor job (primary reason three) of holding track in line, either vertically or horizontally.
     
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    Two shots: Typical logging spur track on Wheeler & Dusenbury, about 1920: http://www.randgust.com/WDcamp11.jpg. Ballast? What's that?
    "Main line" of the railroad at a creek crossing; There's dirt in the center, no real shoulder ballast though: http://www.randgust.com/HVbridge1908.jpg
    Generally no treated ties, no tie plates, and disturbingly light rail 60lb or less was the rule.
    So whatever you can do to 'bury the track' and lower it helps. I don't use any subroadbed at all on my logging lines, just a hint of rock ballast mixed with dirt on the 'main', and a dirt, cinders,and-leaf mix on any spurs and secondary tracks right up to the tie tops.[/QUOTE]

    I will most likely use some of the rock mixed with dirt. I was thinking about that. Right now even though i used some tape to cover the turnouts it still got some cinders and maybe the glue too! Waiting for it to dry and i can work it loose and use canned air to get the pieces out of it.I had the same issue with the wye and the turnouts up in the logging camps. They work now. I worked Cinders into the center of the track but was wondering if the cars don't jump track with it. Guess i will find out, Dan
     
  19. OleSmokey

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    Guess, I need to update. After all the glues had dried, The next day the turnouts became a brick. I tried drowning the turnouts with alcohol And all that did was peel up the cinders and the brown paint under everything. One big mess. I got crazy and just pulled up everyone of the turnouts and some of the track. What i could save of the cinders i did. I took all the turnouts and soaked them in Alcohol and after about 45 minutes i took them out and one at a time i took them apart. Glue everywhere! After painting the alcohol on everything i was able to blow it all out with compressed air. I put them back together and used a bit of graphite to keep it lubed.This morning they were still working. So one more thing i did is to paint and dry painted teh turnouts that i originally painted because the alcohol had removed alot of the paint. They are done and still work. Last thing i did was use some silicone on all teh cracks. I also did one other thing. As i plugged the wires in i added a bit of Silicone to it so they will stay put when i lay them down. That was one thing that bugged me when i was putting them down the first time. Have shots of the mess, Dan

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  20. Kevin Anderson

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    Looks like a tornado hit


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